I was thinking today, as I do every day during my rather euphoric daily adventures in which simply waking in the morning to find anime playing just as it was when I fell asleep and surely will be when I return from my daily activities, that Japan is a wonderous place. Certainly, the meals are expensive, I can't work, old ladies take a seat, glance over at me, and huffily rise and stalk to another seat, glaring as if I had turned into a white man through some sort of ninja magic only after they had sat in order to play cruel tricks on them, and I'm a bumbling idiot bringing frustration and irreverrant shame to their culture in regards to tea, but, none the less, one can not help but feel that euphoria. For, there is anime and manga everywhere, in this glorious land where stories and all who take part in its development recieve their exposure to the world their brilliant little minds process! Here, when one speaks of anime and manga, no matter what their little fannon skews, views, ships and the like may be in their minds, we are speaking of the same work, the same characters, the same nuances that we then process through our own to test against those of others to meddle out bias for a true grasp of that character and that work! For here, there are no dubs, and never need you become frustrated that someone is merely speaking of love--be it passing 'I enjoy that' or deep hot desire to hypothetically plug its digestive track from both ends--of some uncoordinated mesh of summaries and misrepresentations! Maybe they haven't seen all of it, maybe I haven't seen all of it, but we're talking about the same work!
And, contrastingly, willing to discuss a topic indepth, the masses wish to discuss the series and its truths; whatever biases you bring, while pointed out for discussion, nobody gives half a hot fanservicingly flashed bishoujo's ass whether you believe in the flying spaghetti monster, giant balled racoons raping farmer's daughters or zombies who want you to eat them (as apposed to the reverse). So long as you consider that biased slant of your own in your assessment, it is not of concern outside of how it pertains to the immediate argument. Or rather, if you're discussing a law, whether it's right by a given religion, for example, is said to be important only if that religion is pertinent to the law as a whole being; there is no attempt to force its importance. It is in bad form to challenge their biases, as it detracts from the topic (and because they just don't want to get into personal issues, some theorize). One must only challenge when it is so strong or pervasive into the topic that that bias makes rational flat line discussion of a topic impossible. The ability for very well focused thought and discussion, even if its root is arguably avoidance of depth in other areas, is refreshing.
...That said, Vic Mignognia has managed to piss me off even in Japan. I'm so far removed from dubs here that I can forget they exist beyond a brief memory of horror when someone asks if I watch it in English or with subtitles here. Yet his failure crosses the great Pacific Ocean itself.
And then I come to the internets, where some asshat informs me that Code Geass is running on TV dubbed in the US when I mention that R2 is one of the series I get and can follow on my limitted cable.
"Damn it, I was happy not knowing anything about that! I'm free from dubs! Why'd you have to go and kick me in the cock like that?!"
"Why should I be the only one who's miserable?"
Sure, I never have to watch a dub, any more at home than I do here, but such failure of fans whom I will inevitably interact with as well being an English speaker and one who generally wishes to discuss anime leaves me feeling the opposite of home sick. I don't want to return to that place where there are dubs of things I enjoy and people who watch and make them. It's like going from your literature club to your job at K-mart full of hicks, from discussing actual works of literature to listening to people talk about movies or SNL parodies with bases in those things, and believe themselves to know the work. Reading about a book on Wikipedia does not make you well read.
Anyway, Vic's rage incitement can be witnessed <a href="
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KKaEG1r2VQ&feature=related">here</a>. Warning for those of you prone to intelligent religious debate (both on the side theistic and non), you get a double whammy of head banging.
For starters, if you're going to tout it as a serious discussion, that does not mean one must stray from discussing anime at a convention and panel about anime. The first four minutes or so are entirely related to religion (or 'spirituality' as he calls it, even though it is, other than the opening attempt at separating the terms; given that he then delves into the specific histories and beliefs of his brand of 'relation' to the supernatural, it can only be deemed religion), in such a way that does not relate to the thesis he attempts to make. If religion is the excuse of many to do dispicable acts and if religion has lead to many kind acts and if spirituality is different from religion and if it is about a very personal aspect and take on matters are granted as a foundation, that does not explain the link to the specific person (one fictional Edward Elric) to any specific stance.
Jesus was a rebel! Read his book!, etc. is wasted protheletizing time Shoko Asahara is also a rebel, buddy. Most religious histories and <strike>other</strike> classical fiction works star rebels. Where's the relation to Ed? Just because he has reason to be angry at an existence does not mean belief for the sake of that anger's outlet.
Furthermore, for one who touts looking to the source of things (read the bible, etc.) his inability to cite such sources in his discussion of the actual topic for which he was given a panel, anime, and one he had taken a paid stance upon the leading role within, weakens his argument significantly. Edward speaks specifically to a lack of belief in dieties during the incident in which Scar says he will give him time to pray before killing him. This is not made in the same spirit of not depending or trusting in a diety to help one attain their wishes and goals, as his theme is in episode one; though, the dub had altered that sequence of lines such that it didn't suggest alchemy instead of as apposed to alchemy as a counter to religion and in favor of reason (the dub suggested Roze pick up an Alchemy book if she want her problems solved, the original has the flavor of 'alchemy produces quantifiable results and research).
If one believes Ed to 'come around' at the end, as he's been quoted to say (no source on this line exactly; if someone wants to toss a source at me of him saying he thinks Ed changes his stance, welcome to it; I rarely hace computer access with sound here), what evidence is there for a change of a world view based on empiricism?
On the note of empiricism, he defines agnostic wrong. An agnostic is not 'don't know/don't care', but rather 'can not know.' Don't know/don't care, if one were to assign such a case to our protagonist, in the case of Ed's espousements of lacking a personal belief, would be classified as weak atheism. Ed is agnostic towards human transmutation; he states in games and novels that because one doesn't know the order in which the soul and body are created and combine, that it is impossible to know if it can be performed. He takes the moral stance that it should not be attempted at first on the grounds of hey-this-shit-will-fuck-you-up and, after the latter half in which he interacts with Homunculus and in particular, Sloth, for what it means and implies about selfishness and human life. Certainly, he develops what one could label as a less selfish or nihilistic moral code, but, the events suggest and leave nothing of spirituality. Even upon entering Munich, he turns to rocket science even in an atmosphere of mysticism to which his father took with the Thule society.
As for his belief in a soul, in the FMA series, souls are a proven, quantifiable existence; he is able to interact, manipulate, and be effected directly by a being known as a soul through transmuting and transfixing a soul to armor. He has the mathematical proof of such existences. He's not a Flat Earth Atheist.
This angers me on the grounds that it not only shows his inability to separate himself from the role (you don't have to be an atheist to play one; Paku, in the Aniplex hour shows, when taking the character quiz, says she prays without thinking in dire straits) but that he, as a leading force in the development of not only a character but a theme of the series, failed royally. One of the lines made key is the stand and walk on your own two legs line; this is harped on hardcore by Roze when she makes her return, and, in the movie script book (thought it didn't make it into the movie) is the final line of the movie, said to her kid. One of the big themes of the entire damned series, much less the brothers, and especially to Ed, is taking responsibility for actions and what that does and doesn't mean. Does it mean getting back what was lost? It's a moral quandry of his in whether he has a right to seek it, or if it's just greed. Does it mean going after what you want, or is that greed? Should one harp on their guilt and try to rectify their sins, or is that just selfish? What does moving forward mean, and how? How each character does that in what ways is one of the main points of the mother fucking series. While standing on your own legs doesn't necessarily mean a lack of relation to or interest towards a diety, the last stretch of the series is a matter of Ed learning to consider the strength of others and cooperation as a means of movement (though accepting/realizing Roy's help/concern, understanding his goals, realizing how much Winry wants to help, realizing his dad keeled over to send him home, in the movie, working with a team of rocket scientists as apposed to taking an instructor and then settling to research alone with his brother). He's shown to bond to people. He's shown to keep his empiricism in his methods and his skepticism in political stances and motives of others. What portion ever suggests spirituality in any sense? Dude, you voiced the key line of the series (which Paku Romi, in an interview in Fanbook 1, said was the heaviest and favourite line of hers, back around the time they were only up to episode 11, and continued to hold that line as key to the character throughout the series in other interviews; either good research and grasp on her part, or good interaction with the director). Why do you talk about it like you've never actually seen it?
If you're talking about a topic, cite topical sources, and link everything to the topic. I enjoy the idea of Greed as a prison legend baseball star who had an amazing ride in a chocolate factory before being sealed away by security guards in a giant vagina where we can only presume he still resides awaiting rescue by the hands of those meant to recieve the drunken prophecy. I will pontificate and enjoy the details of this false extention at length (long story short; someone I know gets hammered, and we record him talking, which leads to a really long, hilarious saga which often links to Greed, prison, and buttsex, often all three related.)
But I don't mistake it for the actual god damned series. The association sometimes takes me a moment to step away from, but it is possible with minimal effort. This gives us a greater understanding of the actual source material by testing away things we don't realize we've failed to chip away or lights we've failed to notice. If you wanna write Ed-finds-spirituality fics, power to you; I'll get pissed at your OOC display unless it amuses me, but, on a completely different level, as it would not be touted as an actual assessment or validated viewpoint of events, much less made a public and touted as a respectable and view. Fucked up fanon is often annoying (and often funny, intruiguing, well thought out, and positive things, too) but not enraging.
If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find some people who don't even have to consider dubs and meld into their mindset to enjoy anime and its fandoms, to select fanons of interest and stimulation, to have healthy and moderate annoyance at those opposite, and celebrate the fact that I will never have to brew tea again.
I don't want to go home. I'm really quite free from such things here. If I were to stay here, I'd really never have to deal with dubs or dub fans again, much less in their abundance... ... probably. ... I'd still want RPGers, and RPGing is, in the sense of stories, entirely unheard of, here. It's either a video game or a stat and dice game rather than a potential independant story development thing. The latter is a baffling concept I'm working on explaining here--but, this may just be in my area and those I'm speaking to. I've not actually dipped into genuine otaku crowds. Still, their casual anime base pleases me more than the English anime 'hardcore' crews.
Pardon my wanking mess. But, in Japan, it's not a crime to masturbate on your private property, even if others can see you prominently, from off of your property.